From Therapeutic Nihilism to Political-Industrial Propaganda: Laurent Mucchielli Dissects the Global COVID Crisis Nar...

In this in-depth conversation, Dr Klaus Schustereder speaks with French sociologist Laurent Mucchielli, Director of Research at the CNRS (National Centre for Scientific Research), about how the COVID-19 crisis was managed politically, medically, and culturally. Drawing on his experience in the sociology of crime and public policy, Mucchielli explains why he turned his attention almost entirely to COVID from early 2020 onward, after being shocked by official guidelines in France that told family doctors not to treat patients early and to simply send them home with paracetamol until they were sick enough for the emergency room. He describes this as a historic break with traditional medicine and calls it “therapeutic nihilism.”

Mucchielli outlines how his memory of the 2009 swine flu episode, his work on criminality across all social classes, and his interviews with physicians and biologists led him to investigate the crisis as a sociologist. He describes forming an informal research network of doctors and academics, collecting clinical observations from thousands of patients treated early with drugs such as hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, ivermectin and nutritional support, and argues that many deaths were linked less to the virus itself than to the refusal to use available early treatments. From there, he proposes the idea of a “doxa” – an official global narrative – structured around four stages: a new virus presented as a mortal threat to all, the assertion that no treatments exist, lockdown as the only possible response, and finally vaccines as the sole way out of the crisis.

Throughout the interview, he and Dr Schustereder explore how this narrative was communicated and defended. They discuss the politicisation of specific drugs, media campaigns that portrayed certain molecules as “dangerous” while minimising discussion of vaccine side effects, and what Mucchielli calls a “political-industrial propaganda” that joins governments, pharmaceutical companies, and parts of the scientific establishment. He questions the way large randomised trials and statistical methods are prioritised over detailed local clinical experience, and describes his own attempts to analyse epidemiological curves and pharmacovigilance databases in several countries. The conversation concludes with a call to review the crisis calmly, to understand how fear and mass communication shaped decisions, and to protect younger generations from similar large-scale experiments in the future.

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